If you don’t have beta, now is the time to test out the new female tauren model in the PTR. Also now that she is there, the window is RAPIDLY closing on us getting our edits heard and implemented before live!
Our issues still stand:
The female tauren’s lower lip is droopy and dopey. She is…
Oh loooook, another vocal minority trying to fuck things up again. I seem to be remembering a female worgen. There is literally not a damn thing wrong with the new model, you and your little gang are just pissed because “Oh NOOOOO, this doesn’t look EXACTLY like the original model”. Everything you people have bitched about has been such minor fucking shit. Boo hoo…my fur pattern’s spots are a bit off, she has her mouth open hur hur. What’s wrong, it’s like the original, just like you seem to want, and I remember her mouth being open in those. If the female tauren gets changed into another female worgen, I’ll know who to thank. Wait though, you seem to think they are another female worgen already. Funny.
The original was a sock puppet abomination with no emotion (none of the races have emotion, except the panda’s). Now you get a model that’s full of life and emotion and you cry. I see your toxic posts on mmo-champion all the time, it’s no surprise you post there as toxic as it is anyways.
Little fucking side note for you too. Tauren are not cows. They are BASED off of them, which does not mean they have to look exactly like them. If you want to compare Tauren to ANYTHING, try a Minotaur from Greek mythology, not a cow out in the pasture. Incidentally, Minotaur have all sorts of different looks, most of which GASP, don’t look 100% like cows! WOW.
I would also like to point out that if you compare the old, shitty female Tauren faces that we have right now on live to the news ones, they look incredibly THE SAME. Just higher resolution. Honestly the funniest part about all this is the male Tauren are just as lacking on nose pads too, yet I see no one complaining and saying they’re not “cow” enough.
I play a female Tauren, I like a lot of their animation. I support the new models. Also good job harassing the devs because you don’t appreciate what you got.
You’re free to have your own opinion, I never asked anyone who didn’t agree to give their critiques to the devs.
If you are who I think you are from that thread, theres no getting through to you anyway. I post on the MMOchamp forums because I am unsubbed, have no beta and no other way to discuss this.
Also if you’re going to pull the minority/majority card on me, you are one of 2 people to disagree with these small edits on any of my pages. Tell that to the over 500 across my tumblr/art sites who think they are agreeable.
You speak about toxic and then you come in here making it personal, lashing out needlessly. Take a look in the mirror hon. You’ve clearly hit the enrage timer.
What happened to the female worgen wouldn’t happen here and the people who hide behind that really have no faith at all in the blizz artists. People gave vague, haphazard feedback to them in a short 3 week time. Of course the resulting model had its issues. We have MONTHS to work with here and a great fanbase of people giving specific critiques.
Considering the devs have been quoted time and time again saying they want you to look at your new model and see the old one just in HD… you don’t really have a leg to stand on. They were obviously an exercise in how much could be changed to attempt to better it. The face comparison is like night and day anatomically.
The new tauren faces aren’t supposed to be based on minotaur, they’re based on the OLD TAUREN FACES which guess what? Had a nosepad similar to a cow. Any and all of my critiques come back to making her look like the old one not directly like a cow from life. Tauren are a very far cry from looking like a realistic cow head on an anthropomorphic body.
The old tauren was never shitty and im sorry you feel that way about a race you play.
The new tauren has excellent emotion and movement in most emote areas, I never denied that. I quite love many things about the new one. At the moment though the face issues are ruining it for me. and I will continue to champion their improvement.
So agree to disagree ;) Walk with the earth mother.
I have never posted on mmo-champ, so not me.
500 out of the what….6 million people?
I was a little toxic wasn’t I, I will apologize for that. My hostility comes from the fact I LOVED the female worgen, I had been playing mostly horde since vanilla. I agreed to role a female or male worgen cause they looked bad ass, I few people bitched and both male and female got changed. Female getting hit the WORST! So I fear for the worst when people start making a uproar. Blizz still teases about maybe looking at female Worgen, but never end up with enough time to do so.
I do think the mouth really doesn’t need to be open, in MY opinion, if they fix that, the new model would be perfect to me. Everything is fine to me, the teeth was the best thing ever, the fur, while different looking is very nice and detailed, her hair styles look wonderful.
Regardless I see WAY to many posts of people comparing the tauren to pictures of real cows and it kills me. I’m fine with or without nose pads.
I like a lot of things about the current model, but I always thought the sock puppet mouth was shitty and kinda lazy looking. Blizzard never really knew what to do with the female tauren through most of WoW’s Development.
So sorry I was a vile. I agree, but disagree with some of your points. Just afraid of a another disaster. If they do some edits, I hope it’s something we will all agree on. A little scared too because they made the female gnomes very angry recently, lol….
May the wind be at your back.
Hmmh well someone used almost the same words to describe something as you just did. My mistake! People gonna have similar opinions of course.
I really do understand your fear over the worgen issue, it was a huge flaming ball of shite I agree. My hopes were high that blizz could create an awesome beast race that might actually tempt me to play alliance. The let down was a hard one, everyone in my immediate vicinity heard my bitching for weeks and I eventually ragequit cata for multiple reasons and a sour taste in my mouth.
Forgive me if I think the circumstances are a bit different, just hear me out.
Worgen female were leaked from an alpha state and there was an intense response to them because there was no official word. People gave vague and emotional responses to it and the devs where overwhelmed it seemed. They slapdashed the chihuahua together over 3 weeks which is why the model has huge animation errors and required several patches of work to the face (still unplayable imo…).
I think its different this time because they’re working off an existing model, have expressed interest in the playerbase recognizing their character & also have said that they would appreciate feedback. Not to mention they have several months of time to look it over.
Myself and others personally have been trying to present, clear and concise points where we think the model could use some polishing. In ways that they couldn’t possibly misconstrue as something else (eg. Make it fiercer!), heck this is why I dedicated my time to making visual aides to our points!
That last post of mine was probably the least eloquent or constructive but I am feeling a little desperate at this point since so many builds have gone by. Many of the other races receiving tweaks every time (gnoooomes).
Playing both male and female tauren on the PTR really makes me feel like the male is fully polished and done, from animations to individual face adjustments (which still may be coming for the femtauren since they don’t have individual mesh yet, just textures).
The female just dosn’t feel like shes had the love and time put in by comparison.
Right now the hanging jaw and jump animation are my personal stopping points. I can’t get over them, its great that she has teeth, I was looking forward to that! But now that she has them her mouth gaping open constantly looks very bad in my eyes. :S It is the one holdover from the old model that they kept and it dosn’t make much sense ontop of all the other changes.
Those two are the minute fixes I am begging for at the very least, that are almost impossible to fuck up. I want to have faith in the art team and I really want them to at least read what feedback we’ve given.
Tauren hunters FTW!